Well, it's been five years. I've talked to a lot of women, and if you need a list, I'm happy to provide it. Some of those folks are women who, in some cases, are dealing with pretty economically challenging times. This would make such a big difference, especially after you've spent, as in one example, 25 years caring for a veteran who needed a ton of care, and you are now living in poverty as a result of that marriage.
The last time I had a chat with Mr. Ledwell in this committee, I was talking about the need that I see for trauma training. I've heard through the grapevine—please correct me if I'm wrong—that a lot of folks who are starting to work for VAC are coming from the corrections background. They are coming from one department to another department, which makes a lot of sense. They have some understanding of the skill, but I wonder if they have the trauma training they really need. I think that if you're used to dealing with people from the criminal element, you might be a little bit more abrupt, and we don't want to have that happen for any Canadian, quite frankly, but especially for veterans.
Mr. Ledwell said that there is work happening around the “tell us once” policy so that veterans didn't have to repeat, but unfortunately, I'm still hearing that veterans are having to repeat their story. I'm just wondering if you have any update on this and whether there's actually any comprehensive trauma training happening. If so, how has it changed from the previous online component?