We rely on the second generation. I briefly mentioned that, so if they can help us to set up.... Let's say video conferencing is good, but I did have some interviews done on forms. They don't have the Internet access but can join the call and then we set up our one-hour telephone conversations with them. We still can kind of reach out to those individuals.
A good number of those participants are living in remote regions, but having said that, COVID really limited our outreach. I would say, in the ideal or dream scenario, I would like to go to those places and interview them in their own houses and see their situations.
We work closely with the Legions, but their lunches or veterans gatherings were all cancelled during that time. Having said that, these would be some of the vehicles, as I mentioned, if not interrupted by COVID.