The other part of the question is that a number of veterans don't join just after their military service. Many of them will leave the service, and we see that a lot. You get a young corporal who does four or five years and says, “It was great, but it's time to move on. I'm going to go do something else.” Then they do something else until they can't do it anymore, and that's often when they come to us, in their late 40s to late 50s. Because they served for only four or five years, they don't qualify for a pension. These are the folks who are the most important to us, because we provide a living for them and their families.
To get to the point of your question, though, for a number of veterans who leave the armed forces—which can be at different stages, including some who leave after 20, 25 or 30 years—they have a pension, so the work itself isn't as important, as Paul mentioned earlier on, as the ability to work with other veterans and to have that sense of camaraderie, belonging and mission.
Young veterans who are leaving are another group that we're trying to recruit. We spoke earlier about the veteran education and training benefit. One of our offerings is that individuals who take advantage of that can come to us for part-time work while they're studying, and we will go out of our way to make sure we give them enough shifts to help them along the way. Speaking of the benefit, two of my staff have taken advantage of the benefit. One of them is actually using it right now, in partnership with us, to get an MBA.