The reasons cited in the exit surveys when we compare the women and the men respondents tend to differ. It just stresses the importance of having a gender-differentiated approach when we think about transition, so that when we are looking at the women veteran population we take into account those cumulative stressors and the reasons that are more prevalent in that segment of the veteran population compared to men.
I think it's fair to say that, in the past, veteran services, whether provided by VAC or the third sector of not-for-profit organizations, have been designed by men, for men, and led to outcomes that are very suboptimal for women, just like the housing facilities that were described by Ms. Smith. Representation of women's voices and recognition of those experiences are critical right in the design phase of those support services.