I'd love to say that we've had influence with them, but we've had very little communication, so...
We do have an influence; sorry.
We would love to, but the RCMP Veterans' Association works with them, and they're working on their relationship.
We asked for statistics. We had the benchmark from Deputy Commissioner Dan Dubeau, which I reference, and in our written submission we have between 2008 and 2014 the attrition patterns for women compared to men. We asked a year ago for the RCMP to provide another five-year window so that we have that benchmark and can look for progress. I would assume, or I would hope, that there would be some progress.
Two different presidents of our Veterans' Association kept asking. The answer, I think, wasn't until last week: They don't have that data stream anymore and they can't give us that information. That's not great communication. That's not respectful, or not from the council's point of view. I know that the RCMP Veterans' Association is an excellent association, and they have a relationship.
I have to say that they were the ones who told me in 2007 that you didn't need to have pensionable service to be a veteran, and they wanted females to join. The RCMP Veterans' Association is extremely welcoming. They have some sort of relationship, but the RCMP Veteran Women's Council is like a black box right now.