I think we would all concur, though, ladies. Would we not? Yes. Okay. We will leave that off the record, maybe.
Mr. Cathcart, at what point are you involved in veterans' lives and in trying to determine directions for them for employment? Is it after they are already released and veterans, or is it before they leave the Canadian Armed Forces and strike out in this new world that they are a part of and are expected to succeed in?