Thank you, Chair.
I will stick to my time, because I'm getting a little afraid of you at this point.
I'm just going to come back, through the chair, to Mr. Ledwell.
I was fascinated by the conversation we had about trauma-informed training and services. We've heard repeatedly that this is a concern. You responded that there's work in progress. How is it being measured, and how is the measurement process being transparent for the veterans who access the services?