Mr. Speaker, I would like to say to the hon. member that there is no contradiction. What we are saying very clearly is that if one takes a broad approach to these programs one can achieve a saving in the way we deliver them. One can achieve a saving by getting people back to work.
However, to do that one must invest in the people themselves. I would suggest that rather than simply cherry picking one point or other of the speech, I recommend that he read the entire speech. I am sure that he will find it really quite thrilling.