Mr. Speaker, it would seem that this member has a great deal of difficulty in understanding my answers.
The approach we are endeavouring to take is one that builds on the appropriate role of government, not only to create an environment in which entrepreneurialism can succeed but also in the defence sector to ensure that using the tools at our disposal we provide information, advice and strategy together with DIPP to try to enable firms to create dual use technologies and to move defence technologies to civilian use.
In the DIPP context-the member knows this very well-of 41 applications approved by the government, 39 have been for civilian or dual use purposes. That is a defence conversion strategy.