Mr. Speaker, there have been a number of statements from the government. They have been very consistent on the fact that we regard social security reform as a means of making this a more cost effective and efficient country and of delivering services to Canadians in by far the most efficient way possible.
We also understand the pressures that are on us. I would quote, for instance, from the minister of human resources when he referred the other day to the massive debts that must be reduced.
Then he said that if we do not accept that reality we are going to have the bond dealers in New York dictating our social policy. The one difference between that side of the House and this is that we understand that our economic and social sovereignty is in doubt and we are not going to let anybody dictate to us the direction that this country ought to take.