Madam Speaker, the member opposite knows full well that the Reform Party has not said that our plan is to cut $15 billion.
What we did say in a news conference is that the Liberal Party has campaigned on a promise to get its deficit down to 3 per cent of GDP. Three per cent of GDP is in the neighbourhood of $25 billion. The deficit today is $40 billion and the media and perhaps even the minister did the arithmetic and came up with the stunning conclusion that somehow their target rates meant that the Reform Party was going to cut $15 billion out.
I have a pretty good imagination. I cannot imagine how they came up with that.