Mr. Speaker, as we all know in this House from time to time there are those who take liberties with exactitude of what might have been said, otherwise known as nose stretchers. I think we have just heard one.
As the hon. member for Kingston and the Islands knows full well, our presentation during the last election campaign was $18 billion in spending reductions and $20 billion in growth. At that time the Liberals opposite were going all around the country like Johnny Appleseed saying: "Do not worry, everything is just fine. Those terrible Reformers are going to have to cut spending but we are not. We have never done it in the past. We are not likely to do it in the future. Do not worry. Vote for us. Everything is going to be okay". However, we are all in this boat together. They are finding that they have to do the very things that would not be done or we are going to destroy the country. All of a sudden, they are faced with the fact that they have to do it.
Since the hon. member does not think the Reform Party has a plan, what is his plan for reducing the deficit to zero? That is not a low hurdle. We all know the member opposite is part of the Liberal olympic low hurdle team. If you make the hurdle low enough anybody can stumble over it. Before he hurts his shins getting over this 3 per cent hurdle let us hear how he is going to get to nothing.