Mr. Speaker, we asked the hon. member for Roberval about this, and the answers he was given lead to conclusions that are entirely different from those produced by the minister. He knows perfectly well that the decision made before the budget was to close the colleges in Saint-Jean and Victoria. The decision had been made.
The minister also knows perfectly well that Quebec has only 13 per cent of Canada's military infrastructures and that they decided to close CMR because at the last minute, they realized they needed an excuse that would satisfy English Canada, and that excuse was closing the CMR. The decision was not based on financial considerations but was merely a face-saving gesture. That is the real reason.