Mr. Speaker, we have examined closely the famous green paper and we have made comments up to now. We believe essentially that the minister focuses mainly on social program reform. In doing so, he forces people to consider this reform. He starts by saying that the problem in Canada comes from small and medium-income people and that this is where savings can be made because the problems come from that group.
Besides, the Prime Minister himself did not hesitate to refer to these people as beer-drinking couch potatoes. What we say is
that there is indeed a problem in Canada and whether Quebec stays or not, Canada will have to go through a complete overhaul of its taxation system but the reform must start at the top. We must start with those who use these expenditures for their own benefit, those who pay no income tax. Billions of dollars are involved here.
I quoted earlier the Liberal member for Gander-Grand Falls who has studied the matter, as did many others. I believe we are open to discussion. As we have been saying since we came here, we should open the books to Canadians, not only the third chapter, not the first, all the books. We agree with that.