Mr. Speaker, the less government we can have and the more we can let people be responsible for themselves, an RRSP is the way to do it. To tax something like that, one is saying: "Hey, we are not even going to let you take care of yourself". Had we stayed out of CPP back in 1965, we would have been better off if it was not going to be run like an insurance program because look what government did to it.
What we are saying is this. Encourage people to take care of themselves. The RRSPs are doing that, do not touch them. Do not raise taxes. I would be really surprised if anyone over here agreed with that.
As far as the studies in 1984 we knew we had a problem, $190 billion in debt and we said: "Fix it". Mulroney said: "I will" and then he chickened out. In 1988 he said: "Hey, I need a little more time. I just did not have enough". By then we said: "You're lying". We had an election but people believed him. In 1993 they did not believe him any more and members saw what
happened. That is what will happen to anybody else here who does not deal with that number one problem.
That is why we are losing our jobs. That is why it is not working.