Mr. Speaker, I was fairly specific. I am talking now about the deputy minister level. By and large our civil servants are good, dedicated people even at the deputy minister level.
The problem is that the people at the low end of the scale who deliver the services are generally the whipping boys for lack of action at the top, and I include the House of Commons in that.
Where I would like to see this contract idea is at the deputy minister level at which it is said: "You in essence are the CEO of this department and we need to see some measurable results and if you cannot deliver them to us then you are part of the problem, not part of the solution".