Mr. Speaker, I know the hon. member. He was the whip of my party when I was in opposition and he was a very good whip. In fact, I asked him to serve again as whip and we can see the result of his work. We have cut $5 million from the perks.
Another good example of how good he is in terms of administration was in 1988. When 55 new members were coming into the House of Commons, the previous administration spent $1.3 million to move members around. This time, with 205 new members in the House, this whip managed to do all that and spent only $185,000. He saved more-