Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the member for Mackenzie for those questions.
First of all I believe that deregulation in the transportation industry is necessary. We have to have a very practical solution to movement of products. They should move by whatever method is the cheapest form and they should move in whatever route is the most direct and cheapest.
I think when he talked about the hopper cars going into the United States and the turnaround time, part of the reason for that is the very regulated system we have with the crow rate where we have seen grain going as far out as Thunder Bay and then back into Saskatchewan and crossing the border. That does not make any sense at all.
I believe we have to look at practical solutions to problems so that Canadians can face the reality of the nineties and adapt to the new trade environment.
In terms of high tariffs and why I am critical of the high tariffs, I believe these tariffs are put in place as an adjustment process to let our industries adapt over a reasonable period of time from a system of supply management with a lot of regulation to free trade. I think that can be done fairly quickly. These tariffs are set probably high on both sides of the border, but that does not excuse either side.
It is in our interests when we have just signed a trade deal with the United States and Mexico that says we want to move to free trade among all three countries in a short period of time to phase these out very quickly.