Mr. Speaker, the hon. member cannot have it both ways. She claims that when a minister gets on board a government plane it costs $20,000 an hour. She is sticking to that and we are listening to them. If it is costing that much money, why use it? We are looking into this issue to make sure the real costs will be known.
When the planes are not being used they still cost money. The pilots are still there. Reform Party members are so narrow minded on that and do not want to look at the facts. Now they are claiming because they are not objective they are causing the government to spend more money.