My colleagues, I guess it proves a point. I know that we want to get into this debate because it is really debate now. That is what has opened up.
I submit with all respect to all of you, my colleagues, that this debate continues and I expect all points of view strongly held to be put forth in the House. But I would suggest at this point this is becoming debate. We are beyond the points of order. That is clearly not a point of order. It is a point of debate.
I would again caution all members to be very judicious in their remarks.
Is this the same point of order? I have heard quite a bit. This is not a point of order. We are into debate now.
Order. Is the member rising on the same point of order? I would rule the hon. member out of order.
The hon. member for Carleton-Gloucester.
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