Mr. Speaker, I happen to believe the minister of HRD. I also happen to believe the chief actuary because their opinions are the same.
The chief actuary did say that if action were not taken on the Canada pension plan that major financial problems would ensue. The minister of HRD has made it very clear that the government intends to take such action. Meetings have already been held with the officials. There will be meetings with provincial finance ministers. That is where the changes have to take place.
I look forward to hearing the Reform Party's suggestions. I hope they are a little bit better than the budget it came out with last year. However it is something we work on with the provinces. The minister of HRD and I will be doing that together.