Mr. Speaker, I am sure the member's estimate of our national debt is within a couple of pennies.
The problem is not only the size of the national debt, but that as a nation over the course of the last decade we did not face up to the fundamental problems of job creation, the preservation of our social programs and the preservation of the social fabric of this country. What is crucial is that we continue the course that has been set by this government. We must deal with the fundamental problems so that a subsequent government does not have to stand up and admit to the kind of heritage the member just described.