Madam Speaker, I listened to the remarks made by the hon. member for Saint-Hubert. I shall set the sovereignty issue aside, since, as can be expected, we disagree on that point.
I wonder if she would not agree with me that it is somewhat ironic that the Reform Party would come and talk to us about victims and what not on the very day when a gun control bill is being debated, and could even be passed in just a few hours in the other place, to use correct parliamentary terminology and be in order, that they would raise this issue today, knowing full well how many victims guns have made, not only in our country but also south of our border, where, admittedly, there is hardly any gun legislation.
Is it not-how could I put this, again, in parliamentary terms?-less that honest on the part of the hon. members of the Reform Party to address this whole issue of victims of violence without mentioning that they are the ones who moved and continue to move heaven and earth to prevent the establishment of gun control across Canada until now and who lobbied certain Conservative members of the other place about this?