Mr. Speaker, I mentioned health risks, and AIDS is not the only one. But for the sake of example, let us take the tainted blood issue. Do you think that it was any comfort to Quebecers to know that the so-called responsibility was being assumed nationally? It is important to know.
Second, our hon. colleague seems to be telling us that, in Canada in general, people may feel it is quite normal for the central government to try to be the one that is the closest to the people. But in Quebec, it is not so. René Lévesque himself said: "We have nothing to prove". We are a people and a nation, and we know that without one being necessarily better than the other, social, economic, cultural and political organization varies from one nation to another. That is what we are asking for with regard to health as well, and if I say so, it is because I know that I am speaking on behalf of the vast majority of Quebecers.
As for the debt, we think that when the debt is high, it is essential that we be the ones to make the choices, as hard as they may be, and also that we concentrate our resources in areas where a structuring effect can be expected, which is not the case at present in the federal system. Employment centers are indeed a case in point. We have been fighting unanimously for years with ineffective weapons in Quebec to get back control over manpower training, because we know that manpower training is an essential economic development tool.