House of Commons Hansard #157 of the 35th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was reform.

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6:35 p.m.

NDP

Svend Robinson NDP Burnaby—Kingsway, BC

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to have an opportunity to follow up on a question I originally asked in this House on November 1 last and then followed up with a further question on November 16. These questions related to the visit of the Prime Minister and a group of cabinet ministers, including the Secretary of State for Asia-Pacific and others, to China and to Asia.

At that time I raised concerns, in particular on November 16, with respect to the issue of Canada's support and particularly that of the Prime Minister for the Three Gorges dam in China. I am appalled that the government would support such a project which would have an enormously destructive impact not only environmentally on China, but also on its people. This project would involve displacement of over one million Chinese from the Yangtze river area.

When the Liberals were in opposition they took a very different position. The Secretary of State for Latin America and Africa said: "While I realize the building of this dam would provide Canada with substantial business opportunities, is it worth the cost? The dam will impoverish and dislocate millions".

In addition I would note that any opposition to this dam was ruthlessly suppressed in China. The authors of a 1989 book called Yangtze Yangtze , a group of distinguished Chinese officials with scientific and technical degrees, had their book banned. One of them was jailed and fired from her job and others were taken into custody.

It is appalling, as I said, that this government would support this. I am pleased that the premier of the province of British Columbia has indicated that the province of British Columbia would not participate in any way in the contracts for Three Gorges.

I also want to take this opportunity during the time of the United Nations commission on human rights to urge the Government of Canada to support in the strongest possible terms the resolution which is coming before the commission with respect to China. I would note that resolution in its draft form includes a specific reference to Tibet as well and the concerns around the very serious human rights violations in Tibet. I hope that there will not be any attempt to water down that resolution and to refuse to make reference to Tibet.

Finally, I want to note that human rights concerns continue to be a matter of great priority. I was disappointed that the Prime Minister apparently only paid lip service to these concerns during his visit to China. The premier of Nova Scotia did not even notice that he had made reference to it. Afterwards he was reminded that perhaps he had. We saw in December of last year the fact that Chinese courts have handed down terms of imprisonment of up to 20 years, terms of 20, 17, and 15 years for non-violent peaceful Chinese dissidents. This is totally unacceptable.

I expect our government to speak out. I expect our government to speak out as well with respect to the issue of East Timor at the United Nations commission on human rights and to support a strong resolution on this issue.

I welcome an assurance from the Secretary of State for Asia-Pacific that this government will come to its senses and will withdraw its support for Three Gorges and for the sale of Candu reactors.

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6:40 p.m.

Richmond B.C.

Liberal

Raymond Chan LiberalSecretary of State (Asia-Pacific)

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the interest of my colleague across the floor. He brought up quite a number of issues, but today I would like to take this opportunity to respond to his concern on the Three Gorges issue.

We have to recognize that the decision by the Chinese government on the Three Gorges dam project is not based on the support of Canada. The hon. member spoke about quite a number of reasons on the negative side, but I would also like to bring the attention of the House to the positive aspects of that project.

The Chinese have begun work on that based on several reasons, one of which is the urgent need to protect some 10 million people from flooding below the dam site and also China currently uses coal based energy sources, which we all agree have a large negative impact on the environment. Hydro electricity is a cleaner source of energy. China faces critical shortfalls in electric power which hamper the creation of jobs in a disadvantaged region of China. There is a need to improve navigation on the Yangtze River so as to allow shipping to reach Chongoing, one of China's largest cities.

In a Chinese context, the Chinese government, faced with the urgency of the region's requirements, considered the solution to be both viable and optimum. It is implementing the project. That decision is not based on what Canada has decided to do.

On balance we see the contribution of Canadian companies as positive. Canada is a world leader in the environmental technologies and services sector. Canadian companies, therefore, have an important and significant contribution to make to China as it

addresses the environmental aspects of this project. Their participation could introduce management and technical features that would reduce the project's negative impact. That is why the government will support Canadian firms. Their environmental practices and expertise could positively influence the project.

Also it is important to note that the Canadian power sector has identified China as a key market to bridge flagging domestic demand and to ensure its survival over the next decade. They are using a Team Canada approach to China. Their participation in the Three Gorges project could create some 35,000 jobs in Canada, many of which would be in the troubled high value added electrical industry and SME suppliers.

Canadian hydroelectric and environmental firms are among the best in the world and are therefore well placed to win contracts. However international competition will be intense. Business and the attendant jobs in Canada will only be won with strong government support.

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6:40 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

I regret to inform the hon. minister that his time has expired.

Pursuant to Standing Order 38 the motion to adjourn the House is now been deemed to have been adopted. Accordingly the House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 2 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).

(The House adjourned at 6.45 p.m.)