Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased the leader of the third party mentioned old age pensioners. His document said he wanted to cut $3 billion from that program. Reform has to realize that new people come on the payroll every year because other people reach the age of 65. The leader of the Reform Party cannot stop that.
It costs almost $1 billion more every year. If he wants to cut $3 billion from what we have today, he will have to exclude the people who come on the payroll in the next two years. He will have to pay them another $2 billion or cut another $2 billion. The hon. member made a little mistake in one day of $2 billion.