Madam Speaker, for the umpteenth hundredth time in the House, it is amazing that so many members have not been listening to what we are saying. We have said over and over it is not fiscally conscious members of Parliament who are the big threat to our social problems in this country. It is not fiscally responsible MPs who are the threat to the unemployed, the seniors and the needy, as the hon. member said. The biggest
threat is our $500 billion debt and our some $50 billion interest payment on that debt.
Imagine if we did not have this huge half a billion dollar debt created by the Liberals and the Tories before them. Imagine if we did not have this $45 billion or $47 billion interest payment what that interest payment could represent in the way of providing services and programs for people and Canadians who are in need.
That is the threat to the social programs in this country, not fiscally conscious MPs like the Reform Party. That has to be understood.