Mr. Speaker, I was overwhelmed by the speech of my colleagues about these mean Reformers here. There is a bit of paranoia among the government members about the budget.
There are a couple of things in particular about her speech that are really intriguing to me. The hon. member suggests the government is going to meet its targets and Canada will be forever thankful when the Liberals meet their targets, three per cent of GDP, approximately $25 billion a year. We would really like to thank this government at the end of its budget exercise for overspending by $25 billion a year. Somehow I am not sure a lot of folks out there think much of that.
What is the idea of overspending by $25 billion a year? Is that is a good idea or a bad idea?
Would the hon. member justify how this Liberal government can mess around with MPs' pensions and come up with $4 million on the old plan and $3.16 million in the new plan, like the minister of immigration. How can they justify that and cut all the other programs back? Maybe they could get rid of the paranoia over there.