They can say anything, Madam Speaker, but Canadians are serious. They are not laughing about medicare. Canadians want to preserve medicare.
Does the hon. member believe that the single tier system is the best system in the world in terms of cost effectiveness? If the member does not believe that, I would refer him to the report of the Surgeon General's office in the United States. It has shown that indeed we have a lot of savings by having a publicly administered single tier system.
The second point is when the member spoke about health care funding I am not clear as to his understanding of funding for health. Does it mean only public spending on health or private spending on health? I can see from his speech that he would like to shift the cost of health care spending from the government to private individuals, the citizens. However, he has no proposal whatsoever that will contain the cost of proper health care spending which is the critical question facing Canadians to preserve our medicare system.