Mr. Speaker, I suspect they are doing some listening to the lobbyists. Perhaps they are listening to cabinet. Perhaps they are listening to the Prime Minister as well.
I believe there is a deeper issue, a more serious malaise. The whole lobbying industry has mushroomed in the last 20 or 30 years. Something has to be done about it and I do not see the bill as going far enough in the direction to make sure people are not getting away with things, that people are not getting special deals, that they are not convincing the minister of heritage, for instance, to go to Disneyland for lunch; making sure these indiscreet things are not happening. That is what is frustrating about this.
There are many parliamentary secretaries in the House, as well as backbenchers. No matter what they do, because they did not do exactly the right thing by giving those two criteria to the ethics counsellor, this thing will not work. It will not work because it is tinkering with the system. I am sure the lobbyists watching this debate are already lobbying for changes around and tunnels and paths through the whole workings of government, getting themselves into ministers' offices and through the bureaucracy so there can be more money made and stronger ties with cabinet ministers' offices.
Lobbyists by definition are those who lobby government, naturally. They will look at this legislation. I am sure they have studied it already. They will be at the point at which they know exactly what they are after.