The hon. member for Kingston and the Islands asks if I have every been lobbied. If he had been here for my speech he would have heard that of course we are all lobbied. People will continue to be lobbied all the time. Let us have an ethics counsellor with some teeth to get to the lobbyists who are not doing the right thing. There are no teeth. This is a toothless ethics counsellor. That is most unfortunate and yet that is exactly what will happen. If lobbyists see somebody who has
absolutely no teeth they will gum it all the way to the Prime Minister.
There are things which are seriously wrong but my time is up. I would love to go on as I love this debate but I will sit down now.