Debates of June 12th, 1995

Firearms Act

[Len Taylor, NDP, The Battlefords—Meadow Lake, SK]

Mr. Speaker, New Democrats would vote yea.

[The Deputy Speaker]

With respect to Motion No. 18 by unanimous consent it is so ordered, as was indicated by the whips.

[The Deputy Speaker]

The next question is on Motion No. 21. A vote on this motion also applies to Motions Nos. 22, 33, 34, 36, 47, 57, 72, 74, 80, 89, 90, 171, 172, 227 and 261.

[Don Boudria, Liberal, Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I would ask the Chair to determine whether five members wish to rise and ask for a recorded division. In other words, if the Chair would seek the yeas and nays, the Speaker might find that members do not wish a recorded vote on this motion for the same reason as the other item earlier today.

[The Deputy Speaker]

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

[Some hon. members]

Yea.

[The Deputy Speaker]

All those opposed will please say nay.

[Tom Wappel, Liberal, Scarborough West, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of clarification. These are all government amendments. I am in favour of them all except Motion No. 227 which would have the affect of overturning an amendment carried at committee. If I vote in favour of Motion No. 21 can I still vote against Motion No. 227, or am I precluded from doing so?

[The Deputy Speaker]

Is there unanimous consent to permit the hon. member to vote as he has just outlined?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

[Bob Speller, Liberal, Haldimand—Norfolk, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I too want to be noted as voting against Motion No. 227.

[Andy Mitchell, Liberal, Parry Sound—Muskoka, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I would also like it to be recorded as voting against Motion No. 227.

[Bob Nault, Liberal, Kenora—Rainy River, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to be recorded as voting against Motion No. 227.

[Derek Lee, Liberal, Scarborough—Rouge River, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I would like to be recorded as voting against Motion No. 227 as well.

[Brent St. Denis, Liberal, Algoma, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I wish to be recorded as voting against Motion No. 227. Could I also record that I am in favour of Motion No. 102?

[The Deputy Speaker]

Yes.

[Guy Arseneault, Liberal, Restigouche—Chaleur, NB]

Mr. Speaker, I would like to record likewise with regard to Motion No. 227, that I would vote against it.

[Jim Silye, Reform, Calgary Centre, AB]

Mr. Speaker, I would like clarification on the motion. We cannot find it and we do not know what it is. We would like it to be read, please.

[The Deputy Speaker]

It is Motion No. 21 in Group No 7. Mr. Rock, seconded by Mrs. Marleau, moved:

That clause 9 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 14 to 21 on page 10 and substituting the following:

"holder to acquire restricted firearms.

Does the hon. whip of the Reform Party want Motion No. 227 read out as well?

[Jim Silye, Reform, Calgary Centre, AB]

Yes.

[Don Boudria, Liberal, Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I understood the House to be voting on report stage Motion No. 21. Perhaps the Chair could just ask for the vote on Motion No. 21 and we will deal with it accordingly. The other motion is not even before the House.

[The Deputy Speaker]

The hon. whip of the Reform Party was going to consult. Does he have a further point he wishes to make?

[Jim Silye, Reform, Calgary Centre, AB]

Mr. Speaker, the Reform Party is in favour of Motion No. 21 but we are against Motion No. 227 and I do not know why you have Motion No. 227 grouped with Motion No. 21.

[The Deputy Speaker]

It is a consequential ruling by the Chair that the vote would apply to Motion No. 227 as well, along with a number of others.

[Jim Silye, Reform, Calgary Centre, AB]

Mr. Speaker, in the spirit of efficiency here I would like to clarify that the Reform Party members will vote yea on Motion No. 21 and nay on Motion No. 227.