Mr. Speaker, in listening to the hon. member, there must be
a new slogan for the Bloc Quebecois which is, separation by words of desperation.
The reality is that once again the hon. member is making a fundamental fallacy. He is taking conclusions from the Canadian Labour Congress. It may be that the Canadian Labour Congress wants to deny co-operation with the provinces. It may be that the Canadian Labour Congress wants to cut these kinds of programs. It may be its analysis that this is what should be done with the UI system but it is not ours.
We have worked very hard over this past year. We have met consistently with the provinces and local communities. The whole thrust of the reform is to decentralize, to get real programs at the local level so people can tailor and design employment programs to fit the needs of those communities. That is what we are trying to do. That is the real meaning. It is not to turn power over to other bureaucracies but to give the power back to the people to choose how they want to get back to work.