Mr. Speaker, I would like to bring the hon. member back for a reality check.
I used to be a correctional officer and I also worked for seven years in both adult and young offender jails. I have a little experience on these issues.
If the hon. member wants to cut costs, I will give him a concrete way to cut hundreds of millions of dollars from the budget every year. One-third of all individuals incarcerated today are there for non-payment of fines. Those are the facts.