Mr. Speaker, had the hon. member been there and had he listened, he would know what was said. When somebody buys a new car today it costs $500 less in interest. That puts money in his pocket. When he has to renew his mortgage it puts $3,000 more in his pocket. That helps the economy.
We keep going back to this new found interest of the Reform Party in job creation. On September 18, 1993 in Penticton, British Columbia the Reform Party leader said that it would take up to three years before any job creation would occur under his party's economic plan. He went on to say that his zero in three plan would actually cost more jobs in the interim.
If his plan had been followed there would be negative job creation in Canada. Under the Liberals there have been over 600,000 new jobs created. We are ahead of them by a lot.