House of Commons Hansard #79 of the 35th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was justice.
PetitionsRoutine Proceedings
3:45 p.m.
NDP
Nelson Riis NDP Kamloops, BC
Mr. Speaker, on another matter, the taxpayers of Kamloops make a long case for fairer tax reform. I will not go into detail as they are well known to all parliamentarians. They call for an overhaul of the tax system.
PetitionsRoutine Proceedings
3:45 p.m.
NDP
Nelson Riis NDP Kamloops, BC
Mr. Speaker, 219 constituents call on Parliament to consider the advisability of extending benefits or compensation to veterans of the wartime merchant navy equal to those enjoyed by veterans of Canada's second world war armed services.
PetitionsRoutine Proceedings
3:45 p.m.
Reform
Ed Harper Reform Simcoe Centre, ON
Mr. Speaker, a third group of petitioners from Simcoe Centre request that Parliament pass legislation to strengthen the Young Offenders Act, including publishing the names of young offenders, lowering the age of application and transferring serious offenders to adult court.
PetitionsRoutine Proceedings
3:45 p.m.
Reform
Ed Harper Reform Simcoe Centre, ON
Mr. Speaker, the final petition is on the subject of Bill C-205, the private members' bill of the member for Scarborough West. The petitioners request that the House enact Bill C-205 to prevent criminals profiting from their crimes.
Questions On The Order PaperRoutine Proceedings
3:45 p.m.
Fundy Royal New Brunswick
Liberal
Paul Zed LiberalParliamentary Secretary to Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
Mr. Speaker, I ask that all questions be allowed to stand.
Questions On The Order PaperRoutine Proceedings
3:45 p.m.
The Speaker
Is that agreed?
Questions On The Order PaperRoutine Proceedings
3:45 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
Motions For PapersRoutine Proceedings
October 2nd, 1996 / 3:45 p.m.
Fundy Royal New Brunswick
Liberal
Paul Zed LiberalParliamentary Secretary to Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
Mr. Speaker, I ask that all notices of motions for the production of papers be allowed to stand.
Motions For PapersRoutine Proceedings
3:45 p.m.
The Speaker
Is that agreed?
Motions For PapersRoutine Proceedings
3:45 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
The Criminal CodeGovernment Orders
3:45 p.m.
Saint-Léonard Québec
Liberal
Alfonso Gagliano LiberalMinister of Labour and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
moved:
That, in relation to Bill C-45, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (judicial review of parole ineligibility) and another Act, not more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the consideration of the third reading stage of the Bill, and that, fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided for Government Business on the day allotted to the consideration of the third reading stage of the said Bill, any proceedings
before the House shall be interrupted, if required for the purpose of this Order and, in turn, every question necessary for the disposal of the said stage of the Bill shall be put forthwith and successively, without further debate or amendment.
The Criminal CodeGovernment Orders
3:45 p.m.
Some hon. members
Shame, Shame!
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3:45 p.m.
The Speaker
The House has heard the terms of the motion. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?
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3:50 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
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3:50 p.m.
Some hon. members
No.
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The Speaker
All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.
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Some hon. members
Yea.
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The Speaker
All those opposed will please say nay.
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Some hon. members
Nay.
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The Speaker
In my opinion the yeas have it.
And more than five members having risen:
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3:50 p.m.
The Speaker
Call in the members.
(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)
The Criminal CodeGovernment Orders
4:15 p.m.
The Speaker
I declare the motion carried.
I wish to inform the House that because of the ministerial statement, Government Orders will be extended by 18 minutes.
The House resumed from September 25 consideration of the motion that Bill C-45, an act to amend the Criminal Code (judicial review of parole ineligibility) and another act, be read the third time and passed.
Criminal CodeGovernment Orders
4:15 p.m.
Liberal
Peter Milliken Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON
Madam Speaker, I am pleased to have an opportunity to speak, even if it is for a brief time, on this important bill.
During the course of the lengthy debate on this bill, when we sat and listened to Reform members go on and on about its evils, I kept asking them pointedly what were their views on caning. I know one of the their colleagues is a staunch supporter of caning and I wanted to hear about their party policy on this issue. However, not one of those members had the courage to answer my questions.
I want to point out some of their inconsistent statements on this bill and on other matters and then I will come to the caning point.
I am sure the members of the Reform Party are relieved that closure has been applied on this bill because it lets them off the hook from all the inconsistent statements they have been making.
First, I have a quote on rehabilitation from the hon. member for Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca, who I thought often exhibited some sense in the House. I quote from page 3888 of Hansard where he said: ``It is not to say that we are not concerned about rehabilitation. It is not to say that we are not concerned about prevention''.
Yet the hon. member for Crowfoot, that well known expert on justice issues, said on page 3878 of Hansard : ``A life sentence is not about rehabilitation. It is about punishment and retribution''. He should speak with the hon. member for Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca to find out what he thinks.
The hon. member for Cariboo-Chilcotin said: "I am not suggesting that people who had a difficult childhood should not be given consideration. It is our intention that all Canadians should have the opportunity to come to their full potential and do what they truly choose to do".
Yet the hon. member for Wild Rose, who is well known for his liberal views, said: "To those who argue that these criminals can be rehabilitated, let them prove this after they have served their full term of 25 years and not a moment sooner".
Criminal CodeGovernment Orders
4:15 p.m.
Some hon. members
Hear, hear.