House of Commons Hansard #103 of the 35th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was export.

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Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

3:50 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

In my opinion the yeas have it.

And more than five members having risen:

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3:50 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

Call in the members.

Before the taking of the vote:

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:25 p.m.

Reform

Jack Frazer Reform Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, on a point order. It may be my military background but I do believe that we should abide by dress regulations. I believe we have a member in the House who is improperly dressed.

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4:25 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

Without forcing the poor Speaker to have to go down every row, the member might indicate who is the improperly dressed member.

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4:25 p.m.

Reform

Jack Frazer Reform Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, the member for Davenport.

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4:25 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

Colleagues, my eyes can barely see but I gather that the member for Davenport is not wearing a tie. There is a ruling, surprising as it may sound to a number of members, that a member not wearing a tie is not in fact entitled to vote. Nobody gets thrown out but the member for Davenport accordingly will not be able to vote.

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

November 20th, 1996 / 4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Shaughnessy Cohen Liberal Windsor—St. Clair, ON

Mr. Speaker, I would like some clarification. I am not wearing a tie. Will I be entitled to vote?

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:30 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

Yes. With my having three daughters, you are putting the Speaker in a very bad position. In fact, I think the unfortunate answer is that if a member is of one gender she does not need to wear a tie, but the other gender does.

Somebody can challenge that or take an action for a declaratory judgment in one of the courts.

(The House divided on the motion, which was negatived on the following division:)

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:35 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

I declare the motion negatived.

(Motion negatived.)

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4:35 p.m.

Bloc

Jean-Paul Marchand Bloc Québec-Est, QC

Mr. Speaker, I got here late, but I would like to be recorded as having voted with my party in favour of the motion.

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Paul Zed Liberal Fundy Royal, NB

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, I move that the House do now proceed to the orders of the day.

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4:35 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

The hon. parliamentary secretary is not able to move that motion on a point of order. Resuming debate, the hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader. On a point of order, the hon. member for St. Albert.

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4:35 p.m.

Reform

John Williams Reform St. Albert, AB

Mr. Speaker, I move:

That the member for Medicine Hat be now heard.

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

The motion is not debatable.

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4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Alfonso Gagliano Liberal Saint-Léonard, QC

Mr. Speaker, you called debate and since we are going back to debate, the opposition had its turn and it is now our turn. You should have recognized the parliamentary secretary to the House leader.

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4:40 p.m.

Bloc

Gilles Duceppe Bloc Laurier—Sainte-Marie, QC

Mr. Speaker, all members of this House know that there is no list of speakers and that the first member to stand up is the one who gets to speak. No one stood up on the government majority side. I recognized and saw it was indeed a Reform member who stood up.

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4:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear.

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4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Paul Zed Liberal Fundy Royal, NB

Mr. Speaker, I humbly submit to you that you may remember I did stand and I was recognized on debate. You indicated that under a point of order it would not be appropriate to move a motion so you moved to debate. When you moved to debate, I stood and you recognized me. I was about to speak on debate. You then took a motion on a point of order which you said was not appropriate when I had done it. Therefore, I would submit to you, Sir, that I am on debate and I have the floor. I respectfully request the floor.

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

Reform

John Williams Reform St. Albert, AB

Mr. Speaker, I would ask that you call the question on the motion that I put forward.

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

Colleagues, this will seem like Greek to many people. In fact what happened, the parliamentary secretary quite correctly points out that he was recognized on debate. He was not able to move the motion on a point of order. In fact, there is only one motion that can be made on a point of order and that is the motion that was made by the member for St. Albert.

Accordingly, if anybody is interested, had the member spoken and said a single word after he was recognized-

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

An hon. member

He did.

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4:40 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

The Chair did not hear him say a single word. Because he had not spoken, the motion put on a point of order by the member for St. Albert is in order. Accordingly, we will now have to vote on that motion.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Committees Of The HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

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4:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

No.

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4:40 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.