Mr. Speaker, this is no doubt part of the Reform Party's false start. It is going to get its members about as far as everything else they have done in the area of crime and justice by coming to this House and picking facts out of isolated cases, distorting their message and pretending they mean something they do not.
When we came to this House with Bill C-41, which distinguishes between violent and non-violent crime, which provides for tough sentences for people who harm others, Reformers voted against the bill.
When we came to this House with changes to the Criminal Code to make it clear that those who use guns in crime would go to prison for mandatory minimum time, they voted against them.
When we came here to say that those 16 and 17-year olds who commit crimes of violence under the Young Offenders Act will be tried in adult court unless they satisfied the onus, they voted against it.
If anyone has any explaining to do about their position on violent crime, it is the hon. member and his colleagues in the Reform Party.