Mr. Speaker, it is very easy to explain a lot of these things. We have seen right wing governments and their legacies in several provinces in Canada. The Reform Party wishes to use a figure of $54,000, but it does not talk about the fact that it would look at user fees for everything. It does not talk about the fact that it would use a two-tiered health care system. That $9,000 would soon be eaten up and there would be nothing left for those people
In the last budget we protected seniors. We promised new programs so that social services will be available.
With due respect to the hon. member, I have to tell him that right wing governments will absolutely choke Canadians if we allow them to progress.