Mr. Speaker, the member talked about a vision or lack of vision with respect to the deficit; it depends on how one looks at it. I would be the first to acknowledge there are two plans, two visions for the future, two budgets: the budget presented by the Reform Party and the government's budget.
I said in my speech and I have said over and over that the deficit is something we must get under control. We are not only committed to reducing the deficit on a planned basis but to eventually eliminating it, then being able to use that money for programs and to pay off the debt.
There is a difference between the position of the party opposite and my position. I recognize there are two deficits while the member opposite only recognizes one deficit. He recognizes the fiscal deficit as I do but I also recognize the human deficit. We cannot put the people of this country at risk and make the human deficit worse by taking the approach advocated by the member opposite.
I appreciate what the member is saying. To a great extent we agree on many issues as they relate to the eventual elimination of the deficit, but there is a difference in approach. As I have stated, the main difference is the recognition by this side of the House that we must also consider the human deficit.