Madam Speaker, to wrap up on the issues the member was talking about, I would like to know how much of the program is designed after this transpires. After there is privatization in the selling of the hopper cars, how much will then become farmer operated and farmer driven rather than by government? Is the government going to back out as most farmers believe they should or will it continue in this area?
One major thing that concerns all Canadians, including farmers, on which I have not heard anything from that side of the House, from the Prime Minister, the finance minister, right down the list and about which nobody talks, including the hon. member, is the huge national debt. It is literally tearing the guts right out of a number of opportunities and programs particularly in the agricultural area as well as thousands of other places.
Why are the huge growing debt and the interest payments on it which are becoming the greatest expense we have not being addressed by any member on the opposite side of the House?