Madam Speaker, I have here the adopted resolutions of the biennial convention of the Liberal Party of Canada 1992. I want to read a statement about the Senate which was made at the convention.
"The members of the current House of Commons who are suddenly advocating Senate abolition have no interest in establishing any checks and balances on themselves, in particular, the regional checks and balances which a reformed Senate provides. They are simply seeking to consolidate power in their own hands". Basically that says that if there is a Senate then there cannot be a consolidation of power in the House of Commons.
I would like to ask the hon. member how he feels about that, particularly since the government makes it a point when it comes to power to appoint a majority in the Senate of their party members. If that is done, how can the Senate remain independent, from the House of Commons?