Mr. Speaker, the only people I am going to chastise are the ones in the Liberal government. The only person I am going to chastise is the member when he says imagine what kind of country we would have if Reform ran it. We would have a wonderful country. We would have a better country than what we have under the Liberals.
The Liberal Party once stood for the little people. It once stood for the little guy. The Prime Minister used to campaign as the little guy from Shawinigan pretending he had no money, that he was a poor boy and he just worked his way up like everybody else and that he was making just $50,000, $60,000, $80,000 a year as a hardworking lawyer and a politician. He is not a little guy any more. He does not represent the little guys and the Liberal Party does not represent the little guys any more. The Liberals now are big business. They are worse than the Conservative Party.
Talk about imagine. Imagine having a justice system that cares more about the criminal and the rights of the criminal than it does about the prevention of crime and the victims of crime. There is something wrong.
We should be doing something about it. The punishment should match the crime. Whether someone is 12, 13, 14 or 100 years old, if they commit a crime, they should know beforehand what the penalty will be. They should know that the penalty for first degree premeditated murder is life imprisonment. That penalty might match the crime. Life imprisonment. But then it is softened by saying that they may be let out after 25 years, or is it automatically out after 25 years?