Mr. Speaker, I think it is quite right for the hon. member of the Reform Party to mention murder cases but not quite right for the Reform Party to mention nothing but murder cases.
For example, in the case of immigrants, something I am familiar with, they very often exaggerate things. The immigrant crime rate is lower than the rate for people who were born in this country, but they only speak of these extreme cases.
As the hon. member for Manicouagan pointed out earlier, social rehabilitation has produced good results in most cases. Not all inmates are dangerous criminals or dangerous people. The problem with the members of the Reform Party is that they see only the extremes. That is how those on the right think, not only in Canada but in other countries as well.
They leave no room for rehabilitation. They do not want inmates to have any rights whatsoever. They are citizens and, as such, they are covered by the charter and have rights that must also be defended. Some members only stick to the extremes and do not show any moderation in their remarks.