Mr. Speaker, on the issue of fraud and getting serious with that type of crime, I fully agree with the hon. member. Some people tend to think that a so-called white collar crime does not hurt people. Well it does and people are robbed of their life savings. People are hurt in a way that can totally turn their life around for the worst.
I believe the member is a lawyer and would know that this type of crime is serious and should be taken very seriously. That is also the Reform's position on this issue.