Mr. Speaker, the hon. member, a member of Parliament with considerable experience, will know that there were reductions in transfers, in Ontario's case, of close to a billion dollars. That is 25% of the $4.9 billion cut that the Conservative Government of Ontario has brought in and, as a result of which, is closing hospitals and shutting down schools.
That is precisely the difference between ourselves and the Reform Party. Of course we want to cut taxes, but we are not prepared to cut health care. We are not prepared to cut education. We are not prepared to—