The Chilean government has it. An hon. member mentioned some of the other governments which have adopted this kind of plan.
The Government of Chile did it. It is an enormously successful plan which members from every stakeholder group in the economy, from labour unions to business to small business to taxpayers, have embraced. The public opinion polls in Chile show overwhelming support for the self-funding pension plan established in that country.
The member says that Reform has no plan to deal with the unfunded liability of $600 billion. We do. Part of the contribution that will continue to be made to mandatory pension savings would go to fund the unfunded liability which this Liberal government has allowed to develop.
Does the hon. member not think this is a responsible approach to meet the obligations we do have toward older Canadians? Has he not looked at any of the very serious arguments put forward by credible organizations such as those I have listed? Has he not looked at any of the international examples to see that this kind of plan actually can work?