Mr. Speaker, if the hon. member wished, he could look at the decisions for the fisheries department since I became minister. They are in full conformity with the fisheries research board. We have followed science in all the decisions made.
In a large department with many scientists there will inevitably be divisions between scientists but the practice of using science to guide management decisions is well established. It is there and the hon. member has only to look at it to find out that it is—