We are going to raise premiums as well, compensated with a reduction in EI premiums.
I want to talk about the Reform plan with respect to the $500 billion unfunded liability.
During the recent hearings on this the leaders of the parties sat down and spoke. I am sure people might have seen some of this on television when the finance minister actually presented his plan to save the Canada pension plan and then the Leader of the Official Opposition presented his plan to save the Canada pension plan.
The finance committee in turn asked the Leader of the Official Opposition about the $500 billion unfunded liability. What did he tell that committee? I shake my head about the answer. He actually told the committee that it was a complex issue and it would take too long to explain Reform's plan for the $500 billion unfunded liability.
You would think that after 36 days on the campaign trail and the whole summer and part of the first session of the House that Reformers would at least have some form of an answer about what they would do with the $500 billion unfunded liability.
I have read Reform's platform, and guess what? It is not in the platform either. This fresh start is in fact a false start.
I also want to talk about this very issue in terms of how this party—