Madam Speaker, I will just sum up and get some clarification and hopefully some clarification for anyone who may be reading the results of this debate.
The hon. minister mentioned that in this tranferring from the one authority or one paycheque to another that these people would be no worse off. Those were the terms that he used. May I present this to the hon. minister. If someone is being transferred to the new authority and they do so with 20 years experience, will that 20 years experience count with the new authority so that if the pension age is with 30 years of service, that would be the same number of years which qualified that individual for full pension?
That has not been made clear and I think that should be made clear because that is valuable information for the people who are waiting for the new port authorities to be established.
The second thing is in Motion No. 19, which is a motion which was raised by the government—and I will be very quick—there is a statement there that says that this excludes the port authorities, but this is another issue and I am wondering how the government is going to deal with that other issue.
Those are my two points.